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@fczwartek Yea I guess your right because it’s public property. On your own property though, the government shouldn’t have a say. You were talking about public property to begin with though, so I was wrong.
I do think you are to quick to equate alcohol and cannabis, all the studies on driving show that cannabis is less of a problem then being old or tired.
I bet the stats of people being more dangerous with guns while on cannabis don’t back up your concerns either but that data doesnt exist yet

@Hashishin13

So drunk driving should be “legal” up to the point where someone gets hurt or killed … or (god forbid!) someone’s property gets damaged?
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So some drunk drivers “liberty to make bad choices” is more important than my right not to be crushed to death by his out of control car? Is his “liberty” more important than the lives of my wife and family (or your family for that matter) F.U.C.K NO!

@Hashishin13

Yeah, I think being drunk or high while in possession of a firearm is actually a great definition of the word “stupid.”
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I don’t care much about people making stupid and dangerous decisions in the privacy of their own homes .. but the public at large has a reasonable right to expect that activities that are known to be extremely stupid, dangerous, potentially lethal (like mixing guns and drugs) can and will be restricted with the force (and legitimacy) of law.

@fczwartek After all if these people can vote to decide who runs the country, carry a gun or drive a car then they should be able to figure out in what mental states they should do these things.
If they commit a crime then punish them, pre-crime legislation is nonsense IMO.

@fczwartek The issue isn’t being high or drunk, its being stupid that causes guns to become a problem. There isn’t an effective way of legislating people into safety.
It is illegitimate to punish people for crimes they haven’t commit.
You must not have much experience with cannabis if you think that cannabis smokers carrying guns is an issue.
I think ultimately we need to get out of this mentality of passing laws to prevent people from having the choice to make a stupid decision.

@Hashishin13

I’m all for the legalization and decriminalization of pot.
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Issues caused by 2nd hand marijuana smoke probably fall somewhere between minimal and negligible. It’s a flimsy argument as you rightly point out.
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However, I certainly don’t think it’s appropriate for people to carry guns in public while they are high or drunk .. or in the process of getting high or drunk. I’d have no issue with a town or city restricting people who are high or drunk from carrying firearms.

@eric710221 They aren’t local laws, the ban on certain substances is federal.

@fczwartek second hand smoke is only a danger from tobacco INDOORs, as tobacco causes lung cancer. Any/all of the affects of cannabis are from chronic first hand inhalation, infrequent use does virtually nothing and second hand as a risk for anything, even indoors, hasn’t been backed up by ANY data. You are grasping at mist, there is simply nothing to back you up.

@fczwartek “You think 2nd hand marijuana smoke wouldn’t cause problems for someone with a pre-existing condition like asthma or emphysema?

You think that it doesn’t have the potential to cause a failed drug test for someone who happens to be unfortunate enough to be nearby?”
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Yes, because all of those things that you said sarcastically are true, if you were standing OUTSIDE beside someone smoking cannabis, not even walking by as you suggest, none of those things would happen. Get real.

@fczwartek Because there are no burdens? Second hand smoke outdoors is a joke, it doesn’t exist. Also the main concern of second hand smoke is the threat of cancer caused by cigarettes, which is entirely absent from cannabis smoke.
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Cannabis doesn’t cause cancer or kill brain cells, also it has never killed ANYONE, if you believe that it does or has you have been lied to. End of story.

@woodlandcammo27 Are you against cafes with tables outside serving alcohol? If your kid isn’t old enough to understand its for adults then he/she is probably not even old enough to know what the people are doing.

This dude looks like a serial killer.

LEGALIZE IT

Ridley.. there are really jobs there? I might have to head out there.. which parts of the economy are doing well?

The fight against herbs and natural ‘drugs’ (I can’t believe that actual plants are labelled as drugs) is RETARDED. Let people do what they want within their own homes. Typical government trying to play as your parent, giving you slap on your wrist.

If you smoke weed you are a threat to the government and big business. You are also more likely to be liberal because you are using your brain and do not beleive government lies. The war on drugs is used to disenfranchise people and keep them from getting a job or to vote in a lot of states.

I could really care less about inane laws from control freaks, and I smoke pot freely anywhere I choose.

You use Clarence Thomas as an example of someone cares about the constitution? Really?

You think that it should be ok for the gvmnt to tell you how you should act in your own bedroom? You believe that would be constitutional?

You believe segregation or even slavery are “constitutional” if your local laws say they are?

That’s insane.

People are forgetting about drug seizure laws. They can take a private property owners property with drug seizure laws. This is why smoking in public is only individual risk.
I wish the political activist and the protesters would stop fighting with each other and work together. That is how the civil rights movement won their victories. It was a two prong attack on tyranny.

Democracy does exist at the state level, that is how the founders wanted it. As far as adultery goes what about sodomy? People like Ron Paul and Clarence Thomas who actually care about the constitution opposed the Supreme Courts decision on Lawrence v. Texas. If local laws were changed I’d support your right to resist federal tyranny. If you can’t get your local laws changed then quit bitching about it when cops enforce them or move somewhere else. You can go smoke pot freely in Amsterdam.

The property owner risks much more then the individual smokers.

“But I cant see how smoking in an open air location would affect anyone with these conditions any more than the local traffic emitting exhaust from a tail pipe.”

My point with these examples: “affect anyone with these conditions any more than”

There are more cigarette smokers on the streets of Keen than Marijuana. Why isnt that an issue. Or, is it really just about Marijuana? People dont need cars, just a bike, or their own legs. Keen in small. As far as the smoke from the stoves are concerned, an electric heater will work nicely, along with better winterizing of homes. Marijuana not being a necessity is relatively subjective, depending on ones health.

You’re risking getting “thrown in a cage” by smoking it in public. I would assume that someone in the crowd at the smokeout owns property. What difference does it make to them if they get hauled off a public space or private property to be “thrown in a cage?”

The reason you do it in public is for the publicity. And now that that’s quickly evaporating, I expect the public smokeouts will too.

Supposedly Keene does have a problem with smoke from wood stoves, but honestly, I’ve lived here for 7 years and I’ve never noticed it.

Obviously people need to burn wood to keep warm and drive their cars to get to places they need to go. These things are not really a luxury, but a necessity.

Marijuana is not a necessity so why should the public be expected to deal with the burden of it’s drawbacks (like 2nd hand smoke?)